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	<title>Comments on: Using Submasters for Busking Band Lighting</title>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3481</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

My concert went brilliantly, with only a few issues in setting up. The actual format was different to what I expected, as we ended up pre-programming the lighting for every act that performed, so very little was done live, but the guide was still helpful anyway :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>My concert went brilliantly, with only a few issues in setting up. The actual format was different to what I expected, as we ended up pre-programming the lighting for every act that performed, so very little was done live, but the guide was still helpful anyway <img src='http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3450</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Oliver,  thanks.  Glad you found the article useful.  Good luck with your concert, let us know how you get on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Oliver,  thanks.  Glad you found the article useful.  Good luck with your concert, let us know how you get on.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3447</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 15:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this article! I&#039;ve recently started running the lighting for my school&#039;s shows and I am preparing to do my first concert; this article has made me feel much more confident!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this article! I&#8217;ve recently started running the lighting for my school&#8217;s shows and I am preparing to do my first concert; this article has made me feel much more confident!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Phil,

The term preset faders refers to the faders on a desk that control individual channel levels, often in two &quot;presets&quot; of faders, duplicated to allow crossfading between the two.

While you have to control each channel/dimmer individually, if the faders are laid out so that different purposes are next to each other, you can just grab a handful and adjust.  Laying out of channels/faders can be either done within the desk (soft patching) or in the way you plug up fixture to the dimmers.

Thanks for your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>The term preset faders refers to the faders on a desk that control individual channel levels, often in two &#8220;presets&#8221; of faders, duplicated to allow crossfading between the two.</p>
<p>While you have to control each channel/dimmer individually, if the faders are laid out so that different purposes are next to each other, you can just grab a handful and adjust.  Laying out of channels/faders can be either done within the desk (soft patching) or in the way you plug up fixture to the dimmers.</p>
<p>Thanks for your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3115</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi rob,
could you expand a bit on what you mean by preset faders please! Are these aspecial type of submaster or what?

Thanks
Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi rob,<br />
could you expand a bit on what you mean by preset faders please! Are these aspecial type of submaster or what?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
		<link>http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/band-lighting/using-submasters-busking-band-lighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Smudge, the thing to know is that you are currently using the fader to activate channels like gobo when it&#039;s raised.  The action of the fader itself doesn&#039;t need to affect these LTP channels and you can just bump through (or jump to) using the Play button ( I think the flash button only bumps intensities by default although you can change that) 

Where you need to look for all these things is in the Cue Stack window of the particular stack.  Here you can type a cue number and goto a cue (or select the cue from the list and enter) and also set the fader options via the View Options softbutton.

If you want to change the behaviour of the stack when you raise and lower the fader, look at the options : Fader activates stack and Fader releases stack.  The default behaviour is that the fader activates the LTP channels above a certain level (like an Avo Pearl) and releases (deactivates) them on lowering but depending on how you run your show, you might not want this.

Having said all that, you might just want to call up gobos on the fly using the palettes. HTH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Smudge, the thing to know is that you are currently using the fader to activate channels like gobo when it&#8217;s raised.  The action of the fader itself doesn&#8217;t need to affect these LTP channels and you can just bump through (or jump to) using the Play button ( I think the flash button only bumps intensities by default although you can change that) </p>
<p>Where you need to look for all these things is in the Cue Stack window of the particular stack.  Here you can type a cue number and goto a cue (or select the cue from the list and enter) and also set the fader options via the View Options softbutton.</p>
<p>If you want to change the behaviour of the stack when you raise and lower the fader, look at the options : Fader activates stack and Fader releases stack.  The default behaviour is that the fader activates the LTP channels above a certain level (like an Avo Pearl) and releases (deactivates) them on lowering but depending on how you run your show, you might not want this.</p>
<p>Having said all that, you might just want to call up gobos on the fly using the palettes. HTH</p>
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		<title>By: Smudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my Cham Sys desk how would I got about having a stack of says gobos for my movers that I can bump though on the flash button? I just get the first thing in the stack after the fader is returned to zero - would a clear gobo / open make a good first entry in the stack?
I know there is also a short cut to go to a cue in the stack which i can&#039;t remember

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my Cham Sys desk how would I got about having a stack of says gobos for my movers that I can bump though on the flash button? I just get the first thing in the stack after the fader is returned to zero &#8211; would a clear gobo / open make a good first entry in the stack?<br />
I know there is also a short cut to go to a cue in the stack which i can&#8217;t remember</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Steaders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steaders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob.

It&#039;s nice to get some idea of how a pro works. Although I&#039;m getting to grips with the desks I use, I never really had a clear idea of how to layout the subs &amp; presets. I have frequesntly got &quot;lost&quot; when going from one page to another.

I now have an idea of where to start and how to progress to make the desk more user-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to get some idea of how a pro works. Although I&#8217;m getting to grips with the desks I use, I never really had a clear idea of how to layout the subs &amp; presets. I have frequesntly got &#8220;lost&#8221; when going from one page to another.</p>
<p>I now have an idea of where to start and how to progress to make the desk more user-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dimitris

I realised that some of the wording on diagonal stacking of duplicates didn&#039;t make sense.  It isn&#039;t so relevant to modern lighting desks with a good page holdover facility - so I have deleted the example to clear things up.

Your thoughts on Warm/Cold looks are another good method.  Some operators use a Fast/Slow song method.  I don&#039;t often use these because they take up more pages than I usually record.  When busking live bands I don&#039;t know, I only use about 15 playbacks in total - making the show up with palettes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dimitris</p>
<p>I realised that some of the wording on diagonal stacking of duplicates didn&#8217;t make sense.  It isn&#8217;t so relevant to modern lighting desks with a good page holdover facility &#8211; so I have deleted the example to clear things up.</p>
<p>Your thoughts on Warm/Cold looks are another good method.  Some operators use a Fast/Slow song method.  I don&#8217;t often use these because they take up more pages than I usually record.  When busking live bands I don&#8217;t know, I only use about 15 playbacks in total &#8211; making the show up with palettes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitris Vidos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitris Vidos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Rob!
Exactly what I was looking for! 

Could you please elaborate a bit on the diagonal arrangement? I cannot see any gain in this: having an amber wash in a different sub on every page seems counter-productive, better to have it on the same sub, isn&#039;t it?

Also, wouldn&#039;t it be a nice idea to organize one page with warm colours and chases, movements, gobos etc, and another with cold ones, in the same corresponding SubMasters? And then extend the idea on, say, five pages, each relying on a different base colour?

(hope the above makes sense, english is not my native language)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Rob!<br />
Exactly what I was looking for! </p>
<p>Could you please elaborate a bit on the diagonal arrangement? I cannot see any gain in this: having an amber wash in a different sub on every page seems counter-productive, better to have it on the same sub, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Also, wouldn&#8217;t it be a nice idea to organize one page with warm colours and chases, movements, gobos etc, and another with cold ones, in the same corresponding SubMasters? And then extend the idea on, say, five pages, each relying on a different base colour?</p>
<p>(hope the above makes sense, english is not my native language)</p>
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