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		<title>By: Nick Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool thanks for that rob i will play round with and try and get some good looks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool thanks for that rob i will play round with and try and get some good looks</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, if you having to busk a festival of drama groups and have no idea what they are going to do, I would suggest some catch all colour washes, warm, cold, deep blue (for night scenes etc) and possibly an intense red if you think it might suit some scenes.  Also, it&#039;s an idea to make the colour washes pretty distinct so that the different scenes are obvious to the audience.  Specials, a Down Centre or Centre is a must,  possibly top light for a bit of dramatic effect.  You can try to get some wide beamed Down Left and Down Right specials in case there is some offset blocking, where the main focus stands to one side while others look across stage.

Squeeze a generic breakup gobo wash into all that and you can busk whatever is thrown at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, if you having to busk a festival of drama groups and have no idea what they are going to do, I would suggest some catch all colour washes, warm, cold, deep blue (for night scenes etc) and possibly an intense red if you think it might suit some scenes.  Also, it&#8217;s an idea to make the colour washes pretty distinct so that the different scenes are obvious to the audience.  Specials, a Down Centre or Centre is a must,  possibly top light for a bit of dramatic effect.  You can try to get some wide beamed Down Left and Down Right specials in case there is some offset blocking, where the main focus stands to one side while others look across stage.</p>
<p>Squeeze a generic breakup gobo wash into all that and you can busk whatever is thrown at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>help! rob i have just been given the job of lighting the schools shakespear comp were should i put my specials and what colour washes should i use. The director is preety clueless when it comes to lighting so dont tell me to ask him. I cant ask all the acts because they are coming from difrent parts of the contry and if i did that i would end up with bout 50 diffrent spots and a hole heap of washes. at the moment i am stuck. The comps are not to march the 27 so i got a bit of time to get on top of it. Thanks Nick :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>help! rob i have just been given the job of lighting the schools shakespear comp were should i put my specials and what colour washes should i use. The director is preety clueless when it comes to lighting so dont tell me to ask him. I cant ask all the acts because they are coming from difrent parts of the contry and if i did that i would end up with bout 50 diffrent spots and a hole heap of washes. at the moment i am stuck. The comps are not to march the 27 so i got a bit of time to get on top of it. Thanks Nick <img src='http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts, Pat.  I am hoping to catch up with Nick and hope to find out more about his work in this area.  Will post details if I get any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts, Pat.  I am hoping to catch up with Nick and hope to find out more about his work in this area.  Will post details if I get any.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Myhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Myhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to see someone advocating a return to live human input.

I returned to lighting, mainly rock, a few years ago having been active in the late sixties (mainly rock) and seventies (mainly dance and CCTV studio).

I was sad to see the level of automation and programming in common use. (Although in the sixties we&#039;d have given our eye teeth for some of the features and capabilities now available on pretty basic control desks).

Every performance is unique, be it theatre, show, dance, rock, other music, etc. Audience, performers&#039; mood, atmosphere etc all play a part. Who would want to go on stage and deliver exactly the same performance time after time.

The bottom line is there are people onstage putting their hearts and souls into it, don&#039;t they deserve the same from lighting, with empathy, spontaneity and similar terms coming into play. It requires a massive commitment of faith by the performers and some shows will be much better than others, but the average is likely to be higher with more mood.

For me, a decent manual desk is an instrument to play along with the band. I prefer to use my old wet liquid lightshow as a main feature and that is totally unprogrammable and pretty unpredictable in terms of the final projection. You can affect colour, pace and mood, after that the &#039;chemistry&#039; takes over.

I&#039;d love to hear more from Nick on his system which sounds like a light organ, something we dreamed of in &#039;68!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see someone advocating a return to live human input.</p>
<p>I returned to lighting, mainly rock, a few years ago having been active in the late sixties (mainly rock) and seventies (mainly dance and CCTV studio).</p>
<p>I was sad to see the level of automation and programming in common use. (Although in the sixties we&#8217;d have given our eye teeth for some of the features and capabilities now available on pretty basic control desks).</p>
<p>Every performance is unique, be it theatre, show, dance, rock, other music, etc. Audience, performers&#8217; mood, atmosphere etc all play a part. Who would want to go on stage and deliver exactly the same performance time after time.</p>
<p>The bottom line is there are people onstage putting their hearts and souls into it, don&#8217;t they deserve the same from lighting, with empathy, spontaneity and similar terms coming into play. It requires a massive commitment of faith by the performers and some shows will be much better than others, but the average is likely to be higher with more mood.</p>
<p>For me, a decent manual desk is an instrument to play along with the band. I prefer to use my old wet liquid lightshow as a main feature and that is totally unprogrammable and pretty unpredictable in terms of the final projection. You can affect colour, pace and mood, after that the &#8216;chemistry&#8217; takes over.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear more from Nick on his system which sounds like a light organ, something we dreamed of in &#8217;68!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,

You were kind enough to link to my paper from Showlight 2001, so I thought I would fill in a little background.

My work in this area is all to do with my PhD thesis, which is nearing completion (planned for submission around Christmas/New Year). The Showlight paper was a very early essay on my thinking, right at the start of my research process.

My research is centred on the notion of the lighting artist as performer rather than designer, so deferring some creative decisions to the moment of performance in exactly the way you describe in your article. Because I am doing this in a theatre context, part of my proposal is that lighting is an integral part of rehearsal, so for the performance I created last August, we had lighting in the rehearsal room from from day one, so that the actors, director and myself could work with light throughout.

I built my own lighting control system to test out various ideas I had for performing theatre lighting live, very much influenced by Fred Bentham&#039;s 1935 Light Console and his ideas on &#039;playability&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,</p>
<p>You were kind enough to link to my paper from Showlight 2001, so I thought I would fill in a little background.</p>
<p>My work in this area is all to do with my PhD thesis, which is nearing completion (planned for submission around Christmas/New Year). The Showlight paper was a very early essay on my thinking, right at the start of my research process.</p>
<p>My research is centred on the notion of the lighting artist as performer rather than designer, so deferring some creative decisions to the moment of performance in exactly the way you describe in your article. Because I am doing this in a theatre context, part of my proposal is that lighting is an integral part of rehearsal, so for the performance I created last August, we had lighting in the rehearsal room from from day one, so that the actors, director and myself could work with light throughout.</p>
<p>I built my own lighting control system to test out various ideas I had for performing theatre lighting live, very much influenced by Fred Bentham&#8217;s 1935 Light Console and his ideas on &#8216;playability&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed, I think it&#039;s great that some theatre shows are using a more fluid technique.  Being in the &quot;in, show, out and on to something else&quot; trade, I have enjoyed lighting theatre pieces just as you say.  If only they had a second night, it would be perfect the next time ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed, I think it&#8217;s great that some theatre shows are using a more fluid technique.  Being in the &#8220;in, show, out and on to something else&#8221; trade, I have enjoyed lighting theatre pieces just as you say.  If only they had a second night, it would be perfect the next time <img src='http://www.onstagelighting.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Esaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s not just true in the live events sector. Some of my recent theatre designs have been for shows that are very free in style, with plenty of improvisation. These shows have a delicate emotional rhythm for the audience, which can change nightly. So half the cue lists have ended up saying &quot;when it feels right, go.&quot; The best operators understand this and end up helping the piece flow; other operators (often those just out of technical college) are too busy watching for x to move to y and don&#039;t &#039;feel&#039; the piece.

Certainly, an element of freedom is necessary in some situations. Blindly designing using a regimented &quot;stand-by/go&quot; cueing system could be detrimental not just to music and live events, but any lighting design.

Apologies for the wankey language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s not just true in the live events sector. Some of my recent theatre designs have been for shows that are very free in style, with plenty of improvisation. These shows have a delicate emotional rhythm for the audience, which can change nightly. So half the cue lists have ended up saying &#8220;when it feels right, go.&#8221; The best operators understand this and end up helping the piece flow; other operators (often those just out of technical college) are too busy watching for x to move to y and don&#8217;t &#8216;feel&#8217; the piece.</p>
<p>Certainly, an element of freedom is necessary in some situations. Blindly designing using a regimented &#8220;stand-by/go&#8221; cueing system could be detrimental not just to music and live events, but any lighting design.</p>
<p>Apologies for the wankey language.</p>
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