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		<title>By: Christiaan Visser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiaan Visser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peanut has a point,

It all has to do with luck and character. 

You don&#039;t have to do shows like the Olympics in China to get &#039;into business&#039;. Offcourse, you have to got some luck to begin at a good lighting company, but it al begins with you as a person. If you want to learn, listen and work, than you&#039;ve got the basic in you to become a great lighting technician. 

From own experience, I&#039;ve started working in this world at a local drive in show for over 5 years back. Even with the fact that it was a little company, I&#039;ve learned so much in such a short time. And from that point off I went up the ladder with short steps, so that I could adjust myself to the level of the gigs. Now 5 years later, I&#039;m doing festivals, events, tours and concerts.. A month ago I did a part of the &#039;Percy Sledge tour&#039;. That was one of the things, I wouldn&#039;t even think about 5 years ago! 

You don&#039;t have to study in class for this sort of jobs, you have to get experience and knowledge of how it all works. And that&#039;s something you learn much more in the reality on gigs and festivals, than in a classroom. And if i&#039;m wrong, is the subject &#039;solving technical problems&#039; also in schoolbooks? I don&#039;t think so..

So, from my point of view; It&#039;s all about your charater and motivation. And luck only speeds that proces!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peanut has a point,</p>
<p>It all has to do with luck and character. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to do shows like the Olympics in China to get &#8216;into business&#8217;. Offcourse, you have to got some luck to begin at a good lighting company, but it al begins with you as a person. If you want to learn, listen and work, than you&#8217;ve got the basic in you to become a great lighting technician. </p>
<p>From own experience, I&#8217;ve started working in this world at a local drive in show for over 5 years back. Even with the fact that it was a little company, I&#8217;ve learned so much in such a short time. And from that point off I went up the ladder with short steps, so that I could adjust myself to the level of the gigs. Now 5 years later, I&#8217;m doing festivals, events, tours and concerts.. A month ago I did a part of the &#8216;Percy Sledge tour&#8217;. That was one of the things, I wouldn&#8217;t even think about 5 years ago! </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to study in class for this sort of jobs, you have to get experience and knowledge of how it all works. And that&#8217;s something you learn much more in the reality on gigs and festivals, than in a classroom. And if i&#8217;m wrong, is the subject &#8217;solving technical problems&#8217; also in schoolbooks? I don&#8217;t think so..</p>
<p>So, from my point of view; It&#8217;s all about your charater and motivation. And luck only speeds that proces!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think peanut summarised it well, 
Networking and making connections + experience. 

Im currantly looking at rigging, i know the pay can be poor and the hours are hard but i here its worth it for the connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think peanut summarised it well,<br />
Networking and making connections + experience. </p>
<p>Im currantly looking at rigging, i know the pay can be poor and the hours are hard but i here its worth it for the connections.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Peanut, been offline for a bit and it was nice to come back to such a thoughtful answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peanut, been offline for a bit and it was nice to come back to such a thoughtful answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Peanut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peanut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I think it safe to say that, just before Adam, God was the first ever LD, in the most literal sense of the term! (or should that be, &#039;Lighting Creator&#039;?!)

Secondly and more on-topic, I think there are a few &#039;supplemental&#039; factors to getting ahead in the event lighting (and live events in general) business.  I say supplemental because obviously you have to be able, competent and all the rest of it, but knowledge only gets you so far.

I myself am a relative newbie to the scene.  I got a job in a music venue by attending a gig and getting talking to a guy behind front of house who just happened to be the tech manager for the venue.  I told him I was interested in learning sound and other live event stuff, he told me he needed someone to cover gigs etc, and that I could start on Monday.  Easiest and best job I&#039;ve ever got, and therein lies the first supplemental factor - 

SHEER LUCK.

You might look for a job for years and not find anything, and similarly you might have a job miraculously find you.  But if you&#039;re actively searching then it&#039;s only going to go in your favour.

Secondly, once you&#039;ve got your foot in the door, so to speak, another good supplemental skill to learn is knowing who to &#039;make friends with&#039;, so to speak.  I got to know several promoters and event co-ordinators quite quickly through the various events we&#039;d host, and if you get on with them and they know you&#039;re good at your job, they often call on you to do other bits and bobs for them at external shows.  Again it&#039;s a lot to do with luck, but if people know that you&#039;re good and know that you&#039;re always up for work, things can start to have a &#039;knock on&#039; effect.  You&#039;ll work for someone, and make friends with someone else, and they&#039;ll book you for an event where you&#039;ll make friends with someone else, and so on...IF you&#039;re lucky!

And if you&#039;re really serious about getting ahead, always bring your A game.  This might sound like common sense, but I&#039;ve seen a lot of technical staff, including sound, lighting and other types,  do the bare minimum to get the job done.  You&#039;ll especially find this in smaller music venues and rock club dives where poor souls have to listen to crap bands every night of the week.  I can totally see how that would be a tempting environment for a lackluster performance.  But nobody&#039;s going to remember the guy who won&#039;t go the extra mile.

When we get less famous bands in from places like America or Europe, they don&#039;t always tour with an LD, so I have to do lights for them.  If you can give them a decent performance right off the bat, it&#039;s only going to go in your favour.  If I haven&#039;t heard of a band, I usually have a listen to their Myspace or what have you and get an idea of their styles etc beforehand.  That way, if you can give some unknown band the lighting display of a paid tour LD, people might notice.  If that band then goes on to make something of themselves and you&#039;ve made friends with their promoter or whoever, they just might remember you.

Waffle waffle waffle it&#039;s so late....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I think it safe to say that, just before Adam, God was the first ever LD, in the most literal sense of the term! (or should that be, &#8216;Lighting Creator&#8217;?!)</p>
<p>Secondly and more on-topic, I think there are a few &#8217;supplemental&#8217; factors to getting ahead in the event lighting (and live events in general) business.  I say supplemental because obviously you have to be able, competent and all the rest of it, but knowledge only gets you so far.</p>
<p>I myself am a relative newbie to the scene.  I got a job in a music venue by attending a gig and getting talking to a guy behind front of house who just happened to be the tech manager for the venue.  I told him I was interested in learning sound and other live event stuff, he told me he needed someone to cover gigs etc, and that I could start on Monday.  Easiest and best job I&#8217;ve ever got, and therein lies the first supplemental factor &#8211; </p>
<p>SHEER LUCK.</p>
<p>You might look for a job for years and not find anything, and similarly you might have a job miraculously find you.  But if you&#8217;re actively searching then it&#8217;s only going to go in your favour.</p>
<p>Secondly, once you&#8217;ve got your foot in the door, so to speak, another good supplemental skill to learn is knowing who to &#8216;make friends with&#8217;, so to speak.  I got to know several promoters and event co-ordinators quite quickly through the various events we&#8217;d host, and if you get on with them and they know you&#8217;re good at your job, they often call on you to do other bits and bobs for them at external shows.  Again it&#8217;s a lot to do with luck, but if people know that you&#8217;re good and know that you&#8217;re always up for work, things can start to have a &#8216;knock on&#8217; effect.  You&#8217;ll work for someone, and make friends with someone else, and they&#8217;ll book you for an event where you&#8217;ll make friends with someone else, and so on&#8230;IF you&#8217;re lucky!</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re really serious about getting ahead, always bring your A game.  This might sound like common sense, but I&#8217;ve seen a lot of technical staff, including sound, lighting and other types,  do the bare minimum to get the job done.  You&#8217;ll especially find this in smaller music venues and rock club dives where poor souls have to listen to crap bands every night of the week.  I can totally see how that would be a tempting environment for a lackluster performance.  But nobody&#8217;s going to remember the guy who won&#8217;t go the extra mile.</p>
<p>When we get less famous bands in from places like America or Europe, they don&#8217;t always tour with an LD, so I have to do lights for them.  If you can give them a decent performance right off the bat, it&#8217;s only going to go in your favour.  If I haven&#8217;t heard of a band, I usually have a listen to their Myspace or what have you and get an idea of their styles etc beforehand.  That way, if you can give some unknown band the lighting display of a paid tour LD, people might notice.  If that band then goes on to make something of themselves and you&#8217;ve made friends with their promoter or whoever, they just might remember you.</p>
<p>Waffle waffle waffle it&#8217;s so late&#8230;.</p>
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